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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #844
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 27 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 844
-
- Today's Topics:
- 144MHz x-mitter
- Any 800 MHz Modes for the FT-470?
- Did CB's used to require licenses? (2 msgs)
- Extended Transceive For FT-470
- Favor ATV newsgroup/mailing list
- Finally! I got my license!
- Hap Holly, KC9RP
- HTX-202 Extended Rcv
- Kenwood TS-820 question
- New England Repeaters
- NM Ham Plates?
- QRP NEWSGROUP?
- repeaters in the microwave bands
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 08:24:59 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!gt-news!prism!prism!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 144MHz x-mitter
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I need plans to build a tiny two meter transmitter that will operate in
- beacon operation on less than a watt. A ham friend and I plan to launch
- this transmitter in model rockets in order to do some experimenting with
- ham radio. I know that controllers for models that operate less than a
- watt don't require identification to be given. Would this apply in this
- situation? Please send me any ideas or references as to how I could build
- this device and if and how I will need to use it to transmit identification.
-
- Thank You,
- Joel Odom
- --
- Joel V. Odom KB5GWK + pi=~3.14159265358979323846264338327950
- 24879 Georgia Tech +++++ 28841971693993751058209749445923
- Atlanta, GA 30332 + physics 07816406286208998628034825342117
- gt4879a@prism.gatech.edu + major 067982148086513282306647....
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 19:10:40 -0000
- From: news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Any 800 MHz Modes for the FT-470?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello,
- Has anyone discoverd any mods to unlock the 800MHz range of the
- Yaesu FT-470? I have heard that it is possible to preform this mod on
- the Japaneese version of this radio. So I guess that it is reasonable to
- assume that the same thing can be accompliced with the US / European
- Versions?
- Thanx
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:17:07 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!dancer.ca.sandia.gov!cronkite.nersc.gov!fastrac.llnl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Did CB's used to require licenses?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <fkilpatr.775148334@afit.af.mil> fkilpatr@afit.af.mil (Freeman A. Kilpatrick) writes:
- >I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but when I was about 10 (1975), I
- >had a CB license and a little CB base station. I remember at that
- >time that I had a CB license, but I don't remember if they were
- >actually *required* or not. It seems like the CB bands were fairly
- >well-behaved (politeness-wise) at that time, but it sounds like
- >they are pretty chaotic now (I haven't listened since 75). This
- >brings up the following question:
- >Why are the Ham bands more polite and well-behaved than the CB bands?
-
- Yes, CB once required a license, though there was no test. It *was*
- a polite service back in the 1950s and 1960s, but that's because
- US *society* was polite back then too. The 55 MPH speed limit came
- in time to follow the Great Society experiment and in time for the
- Woodstock generation. General respect for law and order broke down,
- kids didn't have firm parental supervision any more because women
- went into the work force, etc. Eventually we got the chaos we have
- today with kids shooting kids on the street, and foul mouthed cretins
- making fools of themselves on radio.
-
- Oddly enough, those same people, when met in other contexts, don't
- behave like pseudo-redneck idiots. That's key to understanding
- the psychology of CB. CB is an anonymous service where people
- hide behind "handles" instead of using their real names. Thus they
- can act out their most abberent fantasies without the shame that
- such acts would cause them if done openly under their own names.
-
- Amateur radio is made up mostly of older people who grew up before
- the societal breakdown in morals, and amateurs still insist on
- usage of real names. Thus the service is a throwback to the 1950s
- in it's social behavior.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 94 19:52:56 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!dancer.ca.sandia.gov!cronkite.nersc.gov!fastrac.llnl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!koriel!cs.utexas.edu!convex!convex.com!horak@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Did CB's used to require licenses?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <1994Jul26.131707.204@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
-
- >Yes, CB once required a license, though there was no test.
-
- I remember my CB call. It was KCB5623. No one thought it was real
- because of the K"CB" part. Everyone said, "Gee Dave, you could have
- been more original than that". Anyway, it WAS my real call!
-
- David N5OFQ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 19:06:47 -0000
- From: news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Extended Transceive For FT-470
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Has anyone out there preformed the mod on the FT-470 that enables Transceive
- in the 140 - 174 MHz range? I cracked open the radio and looked for the pads
- at the lithium battery at the 10:00 position, and all I found was a pile
- of
- white goo (RTV for the battery). My question is this, what do I do
- exactly, do I simply place a small jumper wire accross this vertical
- pad? Do I need to remove or reposition any resistors?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 18:40:40 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ttinews!avatar!sorgatz@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Favor ATV newsgroup/mailing list
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Ok I'll admit it...I caught the ATV bug recently...count me in! Esp FM
- ATV circuits..there is so little written about it! And it looks SO MUCH
- BETTER than AM TV!!
-
- 73!
-
-
- -Avatar-> (aka: Erik K. Sorgatz) KB6LUY +----------------------------+
- TTI(es@soldev.tti.com)or: sorgatz@avatar.tti.com *Government produces NOTHING!*
- 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90405 +----------------------------+
- (OPINIONS EXPRESSED DO NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF CITICORP OR ITS MANAGEMENT!)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 11:50:34 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!barrnet.net!nntp.crl.com!crl5.crl.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Finally! I got my license!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- It finally arrived!
-
- Tech. Test Taken: 4/23/94
- Effective Date : 7/14/94
- Post Marked : 7/19/94
- Received : 7/22/94
-
- My call sign is KE6JDH. Anyway, take it easy!
-
- Rob [KE6JDH]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:17:11
- From: news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com!lenwink@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Hap Holly, KC9RP
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hap Holly, KC9RP, originator and host of the weekly R.A.I.N. Report
- will be the guest this Sunday, July 31, 1994, on the nationally syndicated
- Ham Radio & More show. It airs live Sundays at 6:00pm EST on the Talk
- America Network and via satellite on Spacenet 3, Transponder 9,
- 6.8 audio. Tune in to hear what Hap has to say. For station information,
- call 602-241-1510.
- 73, Len, KB7LPW
-
- PS. A station list was just posted on rec.radio.info
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 02:22:13 GMT
- From: news.pipeline.com!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: HTX-202 Extended Rcv
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <310dio$gb6@booz.bah.com>, J. D. Delancy (k1zat@booz.bah.com) writes:
- >Has anyone come up with a modification to the Radio Shack
- >HTX-202 for extended receive below 144 and above 148? If
- >so, how did you do it?
- >
-
- No such modification exists -- sorry! The RS unit gets it reputation
- for being virtually intermod-proof by having a tight receiver that
- can't be modified for out-of-band reception.
-
- The only modification that works is to go back to Radio Shack, buy a
- handheld scanner the same size, and tape it to the HTX-202. Voila --
- extended receive. <g>
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:47:14 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!boulder!csn!yuma!galen@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Kenwood TS-820 question
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <01HF5MAFEW4I9EGMKQ@gmr.com> A15TAH%ANDV06@gmr.COM writes:
- >For all you knowledgable folks, I have recently purchased a Kenwood TS-
- >820. I want to run it from the car, the manual says there is an option
- >I could buy, but there is also a diagram for wiring a new power plug.
- >My question is, has anyone wired a new power plug without using the
- >DC-DC option?
-
- Yes, you get no TX but you can RX. If you have a service manual, it isn't
- hard to build the converter.
-
- >Anyone know of where I can buy the CW filter for this
- >rig?
-
- International Radio and Computer makes one, used ones pop up now & then.
-
- Galen, KF0YJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 94 02:15:14 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!vitsemi!rob@ames.arpa
- Subject: New England Repeaters
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul20.231504.1@vax.sonoma.edu> harrisok@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
- >In article <Greenberg-200794092655@greenberg-t.aero.org>, Greenberg@aerospace.aero.org (Steve Greenberg) writes:
- >> If possible, could someone with a list of 2 meter and 220 mhz repeaters in
- >> the Boston and Cape Cod areas please post this info here or by e-mail.
- >> Thanks for reading this and the help.
-
- I would also like to see this info very much. In fact, I was going to post
- this and then saw Steve's post and decided to do a follow up post. I am
- interested in 2m and 440 repeaters, particularly on the lower Cape.
-
- >Steve, a nice little book to have with you is the ARRL repeater directory. It
- >is fairly cheap and is usually good for a couple of years at least. :-)
-
- Last year, when I was on Cape Cod I tried this method. The directory listed a
- number of repeaters. I was only able to bring one of them up, and got no
- replies when giving my call and asking for a reply. Perhaps I was not copyable.
- I think this repeater was in or near Dennis, MA. The directory also listed a
- repeater nearby, but there was no activity on its frequency and I was not able
- to bring it (if it indeed existed) up. So the ARRL directory may not be the
- best source of information for this area. Or the repeater may have been down
- temporarily.
-
- Actually, on this frequency I was able to make contacts via a repeater in
- Maine, near the Canadian border. It was quite a treat to talk on 2m to
- hams hundreds of miles away. So, the effort was a success - just not in
- the way I expected :-).
-
- To be fair, this is the only significant problem I have had with the ARRL
- repeater directory. As I said, it may not be the directory's fault. It
- seems to be accurate in my region.
-
- I also checked with Conway Yee's online directory, only one entry in Falmouth
- which is pretty far from where I'll be. Perhaps hams in the area would
- like to help him out with more submissions. His address is yee@mipg.upenn.edu.
-
- Hopefully, I'll hear from some Cape Codders soon.
-
- >I have tried to e-mail you a few different times before but it always seems to
- >get returned.
- Yes, Steve. I sent you email also. It was returned 'user unknown'. It appeared
- to go to the correct host.
-
- 73!
- Rob
- --
- -------------------------------------------------------------
- Rob Eccles | Disclaimer: The statements made here
- rob@vitsemi.com | do not represent my employer.
- "Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst." -unknown
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 23:08:21 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!gt-news!prism!prism!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: NM Ham Plates?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hiya, folks...
-
- I'm gonna be moving to New Mexico within the next 6 weeks and was wondering
- how much it's gonna cost me to get amateur radio tags on my truck... And also
- how much to get a NM DL. Thanks for any info. (BTW, the truck is a 1991
- Ford Ranger, if that makes a diff ;) )
-
- Thanks in advance
-
- -Andrew
- KE4FOJ
- --
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Andrew W. Tipton, KE4FOJ | BNE | MSNE |
- gt2913c@prism.gatech.edu | 9/94 |UNM, 96|
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 20:43:24 GMT
- From: news.tek.com!tekgp4.cse.tek.com!royle@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: QRP NEWSGROUP?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman):
-
- :In article <30ogpc$t68@ns.sunbelt.net> ddepew@CHM.TEC.SC.US writes:
- :>
- :>Does anyone know of a QRP newsgroup? I have subscribed to a QRP mailing
- :>list on the Net, but keep seeing references to a newsgroup...can't find it...
- :>any help appreciated. Tnx es 73.
-
- . . .
-
- :For anyone who is interested, you can sub and unsub automatically
- :by sending an email to: majordomo@think.com and only write in the body:
- :(un)subscribe qrp *or*
- :(un)subscribe qrp-digest
- :depending upon whether you want to receive each article as an individual
- :email or all the day's articles in just one mailing.
- :You'll receive an message within a few minutes from think.com
- :welcoming you to the net with some info about it. If you want
- :to post an article use the address: qrp@think.com
-
- The posting system seems to work ok, as I posted something and received
- several comments. But "subscribe qrp-digest" doesn't. I've sent it
- twice as described, and never received any acknowledgement or email.
-
- Roy Lewallen, W7EL
- roy.lewallen@tek.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 12:29:47 -0600
- From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk!str-ccsun!strath-cs!bnr.co.uk!bt!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: repeaters in the microwave bands
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I've seen a lot of articles in QST and other magazines on how to build
- simple transceivers for point to point CW and SSB use. There are also
- articles on dedicated point to point links, using microwaves for linking
- repeaters together or as a high speed packet backbone. I got to wondering
- if it was possible to construct omnidirectional repeaters and end-user
- packet BBS connections using microwaves.
-
- All of the microwave antenna articles I've read describe directional
- antennas like beams and dishes. What type of omnidirectional antenna
- would you use for microwave frequencies ? I've seen some stacked dipole
- antennas for 1.2 Ghz. What works on 10 Ghz ?
-
- Microwave packet links would allow users to have access to much more
- sophisticated services on BBSes like X-windows and hypertext. The
- software for these services exists but the 1200 bps links most people
- use are way too slow. On the user end you'd need a network card for
- your PC, a high speed modem/radio, and a transverter to microwave
- frequencies.
-
- Also, has anyone conducted experiments with microwave repeaters ? The
- highest frequency repeaters listed in the ARRL repeater directory are in
- 1.2 Ghz amateur band. You could build a self contained dish and trans-
- verter that connects to 2m HT with a short coax line. This would allow
- people to get on the air inexpensively without buying a dedicated
- microwave transceiver.
-
- The line of sight requirements would limit the coverage of microwaves
- compared to VHF so you'd tend to have more repeaters with smaller
- coverage areas, especially in areas without mountains or tall buildings
- for repeater sites. I don't see any technical problem in implementing
- this with current microwave components. There are problems with:
-
- 1) Lack of good signal path during casual use due to walls, trees,
- buildings, etc.
-
- 2) Health hazards from radiation if you crank up the power enough
- to get a good signal because of walls, trees, buildings, etc.
-
- 3) Multipath interference due to walls, tree, buildings, etc. Multipath
- can be reduced somewhat by using special antennas and signal processing.
-
- So, writing as one who has read about microwaves, but never used them
- what are the biggest problems ? Are omnidirectional microwave
- communications above 1.2 Ghz possible ?
-
- Warren Kinninger, N9MLK
- wkinning@nyx.cs.du.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 05:55:50 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jul23.113217.33@alison.sbc.edu>, <CtFK7z.H0F@news.hawaii.edu>, <CtIww3.K8p@vcd.hp.com>
- Subject : Re: Did someone say . . . bolus ?
-
- In article <CtIww3.K8p@vcd.hp.com> dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Lola Cosworth) writes:
- >
- >
- >>Jeff NH6IL (oh how I wish I would have kept my old call: WA6QIJ)
- >
- >Jeff, your remark intrigues me. I have yet to get my license, since I'm still
- >a few weeks away from the test, but I can see that call signs are a very
- >personal part of amateur radio. Why do you like your old 2x3 call sign better
- >than the higher ranked 2x2?
- >
- >I've heard that there once was a time when "preferred" call signs could be
- >obtained, like personalized license plates I suppose. Too bad we can't
- >have that any more, though I do hope there's a small chance of me getting
- >the call sign K7LID.
-
- I believe that many of us are proud of the length of time we've
- been licensed, and one's callsign is a fairly good indicator of
- the time you've put in the service. My WA6QIJ call was issued
- back in 1976. When I moved to Hawaii I was hoping to receive
- a KH6xx call but instead got the N callsign. I guess
- having been in the military I feel that the N calls somehow
- belong to the Navy/Coast Guard, and hams should only have W
- and K calls.
-
- If we eventually get to `buy' our calls I'll ask for my WA6 call
- back. According to the callbook it hasn't been re-issued.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
- jeffrey@math.hawaii.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 15:25:17 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!csn!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!news.lvld.hp.com!scott@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jul13.221526.6932@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <304ho6$3hk@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>, <306dh1$l3h@network.ucsd.edu>o
- Subject : Re: which Ringo do I buy?
-
- Sorry about the delay in following up. I've been out of town for over a
- week.
-
- Brian Kantor (brian@nothing.ucsd.edu) wrote:
- : My goodness, if all you want is to work local repeaters and short
- : distance simplex, just buy an SO239 connector (about a dollar) and
- : five pieces of 1/16" brazing rod.
-
- Rest of description of simple homebrew antenna deleted.
-
- Brian, of course you can build your own. That's always an option. All
- it costs is time and materials. It can also be fun if that's what
- you're in the mood to do. And well constructed homebrew antennas can
- work as well as *anything* available commercially, Cushcraft, Diamond or
- anybody else. But that's not what we were talking about. And at the
- ~$40-$50 price of a Ringo Ranger II (or less at hamfests) you'd still be
- hard pressed to build something for *much* less if you didn't already have
- materials on hand.
-
- Note also that I never said a word about "local" repeaters or "short"
- distance simplex. I can work repeaters from ridiculous distances.
- 'Course I live in Colorado where we have 14K' granite towers for some
- repeaters :-) On the other hand, I've had some interesting FM simplex
- contacts with stations over some very poor paths at quite impressive
- distances for a vertical. Greeley to Colorado Springs or Laramie
- Wyoming for example. Check the map and note that both paths have
- substantial ridges in the way. That's not bad for a "fit to be a ground
- rod, maybe" kind of antenna.
-
- : The coax to hook it up will cost more than the antenna did.
-
- The coax to hook up my Ringo cost more than my Ringo too.
-
-
- Scott Turner KG0MR scott@hpisla.LVLD.HP.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 12:10:47 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!newsflash.mitre.org!appler@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <30v3fd$bfv@hobbes.cc.uga.edu>, <slayCtHCJK.F7r@netcom.com>, <310ls3$odu@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>h.mitre
- Subject : Re: Gateway to packet email?
-
- Vinod Narayanan (vinod@watson.ibm.com) wrote:
- : In article <slayCtHCJK.F7r@netcom.com>, slay@netcom.com (Sandy Lynch) writes:
- : |> Zack Lester (zlester@athena) wrote:
- : |> : Is there a gateway where I can send email to people who have a tnc? I heard of gate.ampr.org, but I can't get it to work.
- : |>
- : |> Generally speaking, if you are not a licensed radio amateur, it is highly
- : |> unlikely that any of the Sysops of the Internet/Packet gateways will allow
- : |> e-mail going from you (unlicensed) to a (licensed) ham; on the other hand,
- : |> a licensed ham - formally registered with the gateway, will probably have
- : |> no trouble sending mail out thru the gateway to an unlicensed person.
- : |> The bottom line is that only communications originating my licensed
- : |> hams is permitted to go out over the radio waves.
- : |>
- : |> Cheers
- : |> Sandy
- : |> WA6BXH
- : |> slay@netcom.com
- : |>
-
- : Does anyone have a listing of such gateways, and instructions on
- : how to register? It will be some time before I set up a packet
- : station, but I would like to send messages to people over packet
- : from the internet.
-
-
- I am also interested in this...please forward any info you receive. THank you,
-
- Matthew APpler
-
-
-
- : --vinod, N2ZKE
-
- : email: vinod@watson.ibm.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
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